Today we’re joined by, award-winning journalist and best-selling author, Celeste Headlee!

A self-described “light-skinned Black Jew,” Celeste Headlee has been forced to speak about race—including having to defend or define her own—since childhood. In her career as a journalist for public media, she’s made it a priority to talk about race proactively. She’s discovered, however, that those exchanges have rarely been productive.

In today’s conversation, we discussed a bit of everything from hard conversations around race, the things she’s been privy to because some didn’t realize that she too is Black, how to move away from overworking and so much more! 

Buy her books:

Do Nothing: How to Break Away from Overworking, Overdoing, and Underliving 

Speaking of Race: Why Everybody Needs to Talk about Racism–And How to Do It 

We Need to Talk: How to Have Conversations that Matter

Where to find Celeste online:

Visit her website!

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